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prowler1971 ([personal profile] prowler1971) wrote2006-06-07 08:40 am

I don't get it...

Same-sex marriages. Why so much opposition? Why a constitutional ammendment? What are people afraid of? Outside of the general gay bashing/hating. There are people in favor of gay rights, but not same-sex marriages.

I would love to hear from someone opposed to same-sex marriages and hear their rationale.

Comments (initially) screened so this doesn't turn into a shit-storm and mud-slinging.

(BTW: Bigotry is alive and well in Alabama. They passed a measure banning same-sex marriage by a 4-1 margin.)

[identity profile] danctrf.livejournal.com 2006-06-07 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I think the constitutional ammendment part of it was to stop all the judges who decided the best way to institute social change was to assume the power of a couple other branches of government since they were taking far to long to get things done. Regular laws weren't standing up against that, so the only appropriate response if you are concerned about protecting the current definition of marriage, is to make an official ammendment that rules out any of the loopholes the judges were using to legislate with.

Note I'm deftly avoiding the, "why is gay marriage objectionable" issue as you are already involved in that discussion elsewhere.

Dan

[identity profile] merlin-v12.livejournal.com 2006-06-07 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
What really bugs me, from a procedural standpoint, is that there is no precedent for the Federal government to make ANY sort of law or Constitutional amendment governing marriage. Family law has traditionally been the purview of the states, and the last time I read the Tenth Amendment, it said something along the lines of, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people." Ergo, IMHO, the Feds haven't got the right to make a decision affecting marriage. Only the states do.

I wonder if anyone remembers what happened the last time states' rights vs. the Feds was made an issue of...about 150 years ago. It wasn't pretty.

[identity profile] darkgryphn.livejournal.com 2006-06-07 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok, I need to preface this by saying its not my oppinion, but what others have said to me when I asked them the same one you are...and multiple people have said this to me...

By allowing two people of the same sex to marry, you are opening the door to people being able to marry just about anyone...people would try to say its ok for them to marry their sister, daughter etc...

Apparently, when this was a debate going on in a class and I responded to the gentleman with "So your saying what? We let two men or women marry and suddenly people are marrying goats?" I caused some trouble...sigh. I really should just stay out of debates I guess.